Why did he always defer to the Father, and not himself? Wommack, like every other Word of Faith teacher, claims that the power is in us, that we are the ones who determine whether were healed, and that God has already provided healing for all believers but we have to manifest it by faith. Do you believe that God is a molecular structure? It was those who had faith that received from God that day! By itself, I see no problem but playing music in church isnt by itself. It comes with spiritual baggage that the Kingdom of God, quite simply, is fighting against. In addition, its been condemned by Christians as heresy for the entire history of the church. Does that make sense? This video was also made on the basis of these guide. Finally: we who follow Jesus should not consider false teachers our enemies. Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christs power may rest on me (2 Corinthians 12:9) I dont mean that you might create a circumstance where God would be less than pleased about your cooperation with Him. without the shedding of blood, there is no remission ( forgiveness, Hebrews 9:22). "It's where the pastor gets his game face on.". Unfortunately, many false teachers have perfectly orthodox statements of faith. Furtick follows in the footsteps of false teachers like Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, and Joyce Meyer by claiming that we are just like God, or just like Jesus. Hopefully, we all learn from our mistakes. Named one of his sons Graham after Charlotte-born evangelist Billy Graham. Weekly motivation delivered right to your inbox. >> it is CLEAR that it is all ONE God, ONE Spirit, ONE Lord. It reminded me of conversations I have often had concerning Christs fulfillment of the law. You wrote, It was those who had faith that received from God that day! First, it must be said that the text does not give us that information. First off it also said in the Bible that no one has the right to judge anyone but God this is the problem with the world today no compassion at all Steven furtick is a great preacher and has lead a lot of people to the lord another thing that the Bible said is jealousy is a sin and a lot of people get jealous and start speaking bad things about other people you know Im so sick of this if you are truly a man or women of God and a true Christian then we dont speak bad on others Jesus died on the cross for us so we can be saved this is not how Jesus is nor will he ever be!!!!!! Im not blaming you, but pointing out that what youve written has been condemned by Christians throughout history as being entirely unbiblical. You said: I teach this very plainly: bad things are always bad, and never good.. Thats his conclusion. The Father was still in Heaven, and the Holy Spirit was still doing His thing. It makes the most sense to apply it to Revelation, as it IS a book of prophecy. Heres my position: Steven Furtick teaches modalism. In my experience, people who are willing to be led by the Holy Spirit into a clear understanding of Scripture will change their minds easily. This is an arm-in-arm kind of association, where theyre working toward the same goals in the same ways. And theres one thing that even Jesus cant do. But Furtick didn't apologize for the 16,000-square-foot home, which drew national media attention last week because of its size and cost. Its all over the Gospels, for God is no respecter of persons Acts 10:34, as He only respects faith, Matthew 9:29. Are you asking because you dont know, or are you trying to make a point? COULD JESUS HAVE HEALED THEM IN SPITE OF THEIR LACK OF FAITH, OR ARE HUMANS ABLE TO STOP GOD FROM DOING WHAT HE WANTS TO DO? The question is not whether the unbelief of many in Nazareth stopped Jesus from doing more miracles. I do applaud those who have obtained these things legitimately. I also appreciate you taking the time to comment, and to try to be helpful to Kathleen. Let me know how I can help, because I want to help. Thats a yes or no question, by the way. Thats the reason that so many of the warnings in the New Testament say to not be deceived: to avoid that, we must know the gospel. If you dont receive it in your heart, you limit what God can do. Actually, the Word of God teaches that there is only ONE Spirit who is God. Ill break that down for you: So heres what sozo means in Romans 10:9: IF (in the future) you (the singular second person) confess and believe, salvation will happen (indicative). If not, do something about it. Other translations, using thousands of additional ancient and biblical manuscripts, render it differently. But, why this buffeting? Do you see? If you will, please answer VERY briefly these are the only options I can think of, so pick one: Please just pick one, or propose your own as briefly as you can. His sermons usually have provocative titles. Have a great day! I cant ignore them, either. Sproul writes in his commentary Mark: The circumstances by which God the Holy Spirit unleashed [Christs] power were not available there, because there was a judgment of God on the town of Nazareth. The Bibles descriptions of God tell us that the Son is not Father, the Spirit is not the Father, and the Spirit is not the Son yet they are all God, and there is only one God. The Bible isnt about you. Is anything too hard for me? The problem: Elevation Church, led by Steven Furtick, suggests that an invitation to be baptized will be more effective if 15 volunteers are the first to move when the invitation is given. Im encouraged by these discussions, as iron does sharpen iron. He just changed forms.. Put more simply, there is one God who is eternally and distinctly three persons. He needed someone to show His nature through, so He made me and you. >> Actually, the Word of God teaches that there is only ONE Spirit who is God. Im often asked to assess what others teach. You and I both know that we dont save ourselves, yet many persist in the false notion that its our faith-filled words that save us. The question is not whether anyone can be saved at Elevation Church. If you cant learn how to believe and stand on the word of God and believe that youre healed before you see it, then the majority of you are not ever gonna see the physical manifestation. The Bible is full of examples to the contrary. He was into Nirvana and Guns n' Roses. The Elevation Church had its first service on 5 February 2006. Every life is a miracle and every child a blessing, true. David Chadwick said about Elevation. He draws us to Himself, or we could not be saved. Was honored during Pastor Appreciation Month 2015 with a 3-minute rap-and-dance video starring Elevation staffers. But right, Paul was not so special a case that he would be the only one God dealt with weakness, but his special case was because of abundance of revelations, and not for the reason of sin, like David revealed; Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word. Psalm 119:67. Neither is God limited to 3 dimensions as we are, but exists in such a way that the past, present and future are observed simultaneously. Im confident that were all better for it. But I did check the website for Elevation Church to find out what they teach about the Trinity. The question is whether a teacher directly contradicts the Bible, or adds to the Bible in a way that compromises the truth in it. Why is that? For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. The most common error among Word of Faith teachers and that includes Steven Furtick is to give us the power. To paraphrase 1 Corinthians 2:14, spiritual things are Spiritually discerned. In Matthew 13:53-58 Jesus is in His hometown, and Hes not getting the same kind of response there that He got elsewhere. Steven Furtick is an excellent communicator. The thief on the cross was a special case. Steven Furtick is a very popular speaker. Which goes along with; That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, Ephesians 3:16,17.Here is the Spirit and Christ mentioned in the same verse, showing oneness John spoke of, the one in the inner man and the other in the heart. Needs a dose of 1 Peter 5:5, as we all must! This is, quite simply, unbiblical. If youre a Christian, one would assume that you believe the Bible to be a guide for Christians. If Im wrong, Im wrong and correcting me is doing me a huge favor. By itself, thats not bad at all. All I had to do was write, and suddenly it became very apparent that a lot of folks are looking for answers. I used to love Steven Furtick but now I see he is up there with Joel Osteen and all the other greasy guys. As this comes back to the baby and bath water analogy. He holds conferences with Word of Faith teachers and New Apostolic Reformation teachers. His church, Forest Hill, has lost some members to Elevation. #2 debunked. =). This is false. I see yall looking at me like, Is that true? Its the result of twisting Scripture, not of careful study. 2023 Steven Furtick Ministries. I especially resonated with your statement that many false teachers today change the focus of the gospel from God to humanity. I dont feel attacked by you. Ive been wondering why people say hes a false teacher. May it never be! Dont bother commenting or emailing me about how Im just wrong. We all have some things wrong, Im sure the goal isnt to nitpick, but to warn people that false teachers are all over the place, and to encourage them to compare whats being taught with what God has said. If he really is biblically trinitarian, he should know better than to explain anything about the trinity that could be misconstrued as Sabellianism. He did not disappear. Pray for discernment. Of course, I dont really watch very many of his sermons so it would be easy to miss if he did. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.. If one doesnt, then such a one can ask humbly for help (James 4:10), as this man in scripture did! I teach this very plainly: bad things are always bad, and never good. I really do appreciate this discussion. Of the many false things they preach, these are two things I hear the most: 1) Jesus healed everyone he encountered. Jesus said the HolySpirit proceeds from the Father. Yes. And, I am sure you could have hit a few more points and added many more examples. Is that what Christianity is being saved? Here are 10 facts about him. Of course it does its all over the gospels. All three have attributes that only God has. The text clearly indicates that. The problem is that people dont study the Word of God enough to understand. But their messages are as by-the-Book and Jesus-centered as a Billy Graham altar call. For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. That attitude is the prerequisite for vs 15, Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Relying on the Lord Jesus this way ensures us that He will correct us if we begin to go off on a tangent. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Thats not an indication of limitation, and the very idea contradicts the rest of what God reveals about Himself in all of Scripture. Its no coincidence that the book of Jude is just before the Book of Revelation. The context doesnt suggest that God lost any ability due to Israels actions the context tells us that God responded as He said He would. When we look in the mirror, however, it doesnt seem that He guides us into all truth right away. In Furticks own words, the power of God was trapped in their unbelief. THAT is his point, as the rest of his quote shows. He hooked up with a Baptist church, where the pastor named him youth minister. Named . Not just theological stuff, but ALL true things. He knows better than you or I what your father needs. I do not do this lightly, but it is necessary. Third: what is this scroll? Hope you are doing well, as it has been awhile since corresponding and you writing; When Furtick claims that Jesus was UNABLE to do ANY miracles because the power of God was trapped in the unbelief of humans, But since then, I just heard Andrew Wommack teach about Mark 6:5,6 saying we can limit God. Our bodies are the temples of God because the Holy Spirit dwells in believers. If someone makes a good point, good but we dont use human authority to point out Gods authority in Scripture. We are as youre aware saved by grace, through faith and this is NOT from ourselves, it is the gift of God. In this case, its that Jesus isnt God, and isnt one with the Father, but that Hes the first being that God created. Because Matthew Henry said similar interpretation as Furtick, Will you bring Matthew Henry into this category of false teacher too? You have no idea whether Im envious of Steven Furtick (Im not). =). Dont even listen to yourself! First, Ive confirmed your subscription to this comment thread. Now it's your turn to get dunked, he told the crowd, wheeling out a cart loaded with shorts, T-shirts, flip-flops, sports bras, boxers and more. God isnt morphing like a CGI character from one state of being into another. Steven Furtick is an interesting person, a gifted communicator, and probably a pretty nice guy. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. To animals? And without the necessary attitude described above, we are apt to fall for the logic of those who are disingenuous, self-seeking teachers who take advantage of the flock. You ask about removing their names. Jesus decision to heal some and not others might be confusing to you, but its not illogical and its certainly not unbiblical and it certainly isnt addressed in 1 Corinthians 14. 5 Women pastors in the church have been debated for many years. About Steven; Contact Information . Your email address will not be published. We might try to conclude how it worked, but we have ONLY the text to work with. This is unbiblical nonsense that doesnt match the Greek text. In addition to not saying it, it also does not indicate it. Jesus said the HolySpirit proceeds from the Father. I just want the truth which I believe I can only find through prayer, study and revelation. I wonder, Joann: who do you think I should listen to? Rather than having a biblical perspective, they teach what is essentially magic. Second: who does it apply to? "He said 'What about the dinosaurs? Touching a dead body a common occurrence caused one to be ritually impure, and there are instructions about that. Yes, that. Here are a few other special cases that people try to plead: Its clear that you feel comfortable suggesting that the apostle Paul knew less about following Jesus than you do. I never assume someone is saved,born again because they like to debate Gods Word. Thanks for writing. Each of those analogies falls apart at some point, and fails to adequately explain what God is like. When I spoke of the Great Commission, he was confused. Your dissatisfaction with church as usual is a GOOD thing. In the world of the Word of Faith movement, God CANNOT do ANYTHING on earth without us giving Him permission. I dont mean that you might create a circumstance where God doesnt get what He wants that happens all the time. First of all we have the Holy Spirit which guides us when something is incorrect the holy spirit will Quicken us to let us know what is right and what is not. Its good that I leave in physical form because then I can give you in spiritual form, then I can direct you from a deeper place.. False teachers often try to make us read the Bible to see how God is trying to bless us. . (This collection of 100 awakened leaders who are using their voices and talent to elevate humanity also included Bishop T.D. He grew up in Moncks Corner, South Carolina alongside Matthew Furtick born in 1983. So He made man, and wo-man, to reflect who He was. I recently worked with a retired pastor, and our topic was discipleship. My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working. As for healing, heres some of what false teacher Andrew Wommack says and none of it matches what we see in the Bible: Unfortunately, thats a big fat NOPE. See he is up there with Joel Osteen and all the other greasy guys ) as. Such a one can ask humbly for help ( James 4:10 ), as the rest of what God about. 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